A conversation
with Howard Hodgkin
Continued (2)
LH Do you make an image more personal
or less personal if you know that it is being produced
in large numbers?
HH Of course it’s less
personal. I always think of my prints as being totally
different from my paintings. My prints are more like
posters that you just hang on the wall as a thing.
LH Does it interest you where your prints
end up?
HH Not particularly. Not even
if they end up in museums. Fashion rules in museums,
particularly at the moment. Before I became a trustee
of the Tate Gallery in 1970, I vaguely realized that
curators judge work on whether it is part of history
and whether it is any good. Nowadays curators only ask
themselves whether the work is part of history.
I have been discovered in my career so many times that
I’ve already had nine lives. I am delighted if
a museum gives me an exhibition because exhibitions
matter. Being bought matters less. On the other hand,
at least people hang them up in their houses. In museums,
most prints are not on view. The British Museum has
the study for one of my best prints, Moonlight [1980],
but they never display it.
LH Is there a printmaker you feel particularly
close to? Do you follow exhibitions of any contemporary
printmakers?
HH I wish I did feel close to
Nabi printmakers, but I don’t. I look at very
few exhibitions.
LH Does the technique of painting or
printmaking allow you to express something which the
other technique cannot?
HH I certainly could never make
a print that was like one of my paintings. In the beginning
I was upset when publishers wanted me to make prints
that were like my pictures.
My prints are the result of thinking about what prints
can be. The last thing I want them to be is substitute
paintings.
LH To some extent your paintings and
prints have become more alike in the last few years.
HH I am sorry to hear that.
I was actually hoping that they had become more different.
In that case, I should stop making prints. There should
be one sort of expression for prints and another one
for painting.
When I recently showed Into the Woods, Winter to someone
he said, ‘That is not a print, but a painting.’
In some respects that is a valid criticism, because
of its scale and the way it is made. It isn’t
really a multiple image but rather a single image.
Prints such as ‘Into the Woods’ and ‘Venetian
Views’ are becoming single images. Part of the
reason that they work as prints is because they are
actually on the edge of not being prints. That makes
them much more risky than little prints. Real prints
should perhaps be more multiple and less unique in spirit.
Obviously you can say more with a painting than you
can with a print. Prints are not nearly as complex as
paintings.
LH In the series of ‘Venetian Views’
[1995] you have shown that your prints can be very complex.
HH I want them to be as simple
as possible, or as straight-forward as woodcuts, images
d’epinal, like Napoleon on his charger wearing
a big black hat. One of the advantages of printmaking
is that it forces you to do things like ‘the cat
sat on the mat’. Prints are an invitation to banality.
Sometimes they are a relief from the complexities of
painting.
LH An important contribution you made
to the history of printmaking was using an assistant
to hand colour your prints at any stage of the printing
process. Could you tell me how you got the idea of hand
colouring, and how you got the idea of using an assistant?
HH I find it hard to remember.
I coloured a whole edition of Julian and Alexis in 1977
with the help of my son Sam, but I’m not sure
why.
I do remember what happened when I was working with
Maurice Payne in 1977 on Nick. I had trouble with it;
I changed the shape of the plate, and added another
plate. In the end there was nothing more that could
be done, except hand colouring it. It has very little
hand colouring, but it totally changed the image.The
person who really encouraged me was the printmaker Bruce
Porter at Petersburg Press in New York. He had a very
alert sensibility to what the artist wanted to do. I
had never come across anybody like that before. For
example, Jarid’s Porch [1977] was coloured in
such a way that its central shape was made of crinkled
paper. Bruce made the paper surface expand, by painting
it with watercolour, something nobody else would have
done. One of the things that was so difficult was that
there were so many idées fixes about what you
could and could not do. That has long since gone.
I got seriously involved in hand colouring with Cinda
Sparling at Solo Press in New York. That is when I learnt
how to control it. We coloured prints half way through
the printing process and then printed on top of the
hand colouring, which was exciting.
The important thing about hand colouring is to get
other people to do it. In the beginning I would do it
partly myself, and then they would copy me. But with
Cinda it was like having another instrument.
LH She told me how you instructed her
using metaphors such as to paint ‘like a silk
stocking’.
HH Yes, she probably remembers
the metaphors better than I do. She was horrified when
I once said, ‘That’s easy, Cinda, it’s
just like hitting a baby’, which is an old English
expression. She had incredible control.
The wonderful thing about hand colouring is that it
is so immediate. That is partly why I did it and why
I have used it increasingly. I hate the printing process,
where you make an image and you have to wait, sometimes
for weeks, before you can see what you have done. And
then it is back to front anyway. Hand colouring is also
so quick – as it is for the printer as well. The
other great thing about hand colouring is that you can
correct what you have printed, instantly and radically.
I never hand colour the editions of my prints, although
I have sometimes hand coloured the first one, to show
the printer what to do. It can look difficult to do,
and this is a way of explaining. Occasionally I hand
colour single prints.
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